Thread:Redbeard99/@comment-27294075-20171109224724/@comment-26384327-20171113135810

Redbeard99 wrote: Hello All,

This has progressed while I was asleep. To answer MFB I am quite happy for THIS conversation to continue as it seems we have be told of the source of this rule.

AAA you said " However, this is part of what the G5 representative told the person with whom I was in communique with - " ...we are very sorry but according to our policy we cannot reveal everything before the events start .""

So just looking at this, we have a comment from a G5 representative that has been told to us third hand. And this is what the whole basis of "for legal reasons" has come about.

If I walked up to Bill Gates and said to him "Tell me about Windows 12"  he will tell me exactly the same type of reply. And if you asked anyone in Microsoft they would say a similar thing. That does not mean everyone else is bound by the same policy..

That statement above does not restrain me from looking at the game files and producing a document on what I find. Its already on my system. It certainly does not prohibit me from looking at the files AFTER the events finish either. It is just that a statement from an employee of G5 as to what THEY must do. They didnt say "YOU are not allowed".

So the "legal reasons" that were "handed down" from AAA do not exist,  G5 has not given any directive to this wiki or to Fandom about what and how we do things. Nor is there anything specific in G5's Terms of Use. The Admins are worrying about shadows!

If there is anything the G5 terms of use that affects us, its clause 2. and part of clause 3

2.All Games, text, data, graphics files, sound files and other materials contained in the Site and/or promoted or made available on the Site are copyrighted unless otherwise noted and are the property of G5 and/or a supplier to G5. No such materials may be used except as provided in these Terms and Conditions.

3. ....... Nothing contained in this Agreement, and Game, or in the Site shall be construed as granting, by implication or otherwise, any license or right to use any Trademark or other proprietary information without the express written consent of the owner thereof.

I read this as saying we are not allowed the wiki at all with out G5s pemission. Has anyone got that in writing? If not we had better shut it all down...

Or they can just sue me.... My address is ...................... not telling!!!!

And also I am pretty sure that the State Of Califorinas laws dont have jurisdiction in every part of the world that people on this wiki live in. Redbeard - you have made a cogent argument using what I posted as your baseline, however you overlooked (by choice or by chance) the KEY component to the statement - "before the event starts". So, if the game information is on your device, then it is a fair bet to say that the event has started. Now here is the semantic part (which could be one of the reasons G5/MyTona is restricting Time Travel), if one Time Travels to the future on kick off the event, which in turns puts it on their device, does that mean that the event has officially started? As I said before, I chose to err on the side of caution, and not for me but for the Wiki. And if a member elected to "go into the future" and post information, we simply gave them a gentle reminder.