Thread:Sannse/@comment-33762881-20170706223419/@comment-29954643-20170707190803

Thank you, Sannse, for your long (I love them) response. There has been no vandalism in any of the content edits as far as I know. There have been disagreements about the need for careful edits to begin to make them readable again, especially for newer members to the community. The continued addition of repetitive (mimic) verbage to articles as new events are added at an alarming rate, have made the artiicles almost unbearable to read.

Restructuring those type articles to highlight what each event has in common in those type articles and explaining pertinent info exclusive to each event as it is added is called normalization. It does not remove any historical reference or integrity, but simplifies it's readability. This is NOT vandalism.

There has been numerious attempts to address the difficulty navigating within the wiki, especially to the content articles themselves. The main page has been clouded with redundant (repetive and unnecessary), and mislabled (IMO) lines at the top which masks the subsequent links to the real content (Althought I do recognize and appreciate the farirly new archives system). Why must a discussion be terminated because an admin has said so? Why can't the admin just stop responding at all if they are bored with the discussion? Why the need to threaten to block a person who has not felt heard or appreciated?

An open discussion of these ideas is NECESSARY and in the best interest of the community and it's game content. This site is about making the game rules and info current, readable and correct. Any personal discussions in the forum and on walls is fine, but is secondary to content which most of came to the wiki to read and use in order to learn how to play the game better. Harping on a simple typo while whole articles are a year out of date is not a productive use of anyone's valuable time.

Closing down a discussion does no one any good other than to keep everything as it had been in the past. It's truly time to move on into the future of this game and not just talk about our having already done that. I hope that more will get involved so as to keep our content much more current and vibrant. My hope had been that there would be some help given to newer members tyring to learn how to do edits at all, but there is no help being offered, just removals and lectures and then threats. I have links to all of this, but I'm trying to avoid specific citations at this time in the hopes that some may begin to open up their 'closed' attitude to change and ask for community discussion about old templates that have become obselete and stop going into closed door virtual meetings with only those who share the same viewpoint. So much can be accomplished when there really is some compromise, but presently, that is not the case.

You might say that it is only me, because I write about the problem. It's simply not true. Some of those that have left the wiki chose not to argue. They are gone, not probably coming back, but there will new members who will find the same problems. If the content continues to become so out of date with pages and pages of redundant information, you will no longer get too many new members. That's where it all started and where all of us, working together, will make the most positive difference. Please, please try to compromise and listen :--)) - El